Tom Sawyer speaks about attitudes and how they affect the earth. Recorded in November, 1989. Duration: 2h 1mins. (31 pages)

 

Raw Transcript:

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Good morning, Tom Sawyer. Morning, Carol. Today is November 29th, 1989, and we’re about to make our fourth video. And today we’d like to talk about the importance of the significance of attitude. Well, I’ll start out by saying attitude is uh one of the very most important characteristics or aspects of any one of you. It’s all of us. And uh I might even focus on the collective or the ability of collectively our attitudes in relationship to the priesthood and what we can do to be facilitators and to

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accomplish certain things. start out by saying and know the kind of dry humor joke was that you have an attitude about death. Well, each one of us do and uh it can be stereotyped, it can be talked into, it can be changed. Um I don’t really want to focus on our attitude to things that are ambiguous. I want to really focus on and share with you some of my thoughts regarding general attitudes or your or my attitude in general. And that’s not only changeable but it can be changeable uh day by day, minute by minute on an

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ongoing basis and for the purpose of accomplishing extraordinary things like accomplishing ordinary things is a step in the right direction if it be um uh consciously done. Um I’ve talked about free will many times and I’ve made uh statements such as uh free will is more powerful. Uh well, in other words, in so many words, the translated version would be that that the human in the human condition, free will is as powerful as God. Meaning that the gifts that God has given to us. In other the divinity

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within us, God has given us free will and that that can override or supersede karma, can override or supersede uh decisions. uh cultural conditionings, preconceived ideas and so on. Attitude is actually a form of free will in that your general attitude whereas it does have a degree of cultural conditioning, learned experiences, trial and error, uh the various things that create a certain attitude within any one of us. uh with free will that attitude can be manipulated or changed. Uh I used the example in

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another tape or in another talk one time where uh a very specific and in one location only uh in the Middle East a bombing was actually prevented by as a love gesture an attitudal change of an individual. I don’t recall now in my terrible memory of the person’s name, but uh in other words, he was to drive a car bomb into a United States checkpoint in the Middle East. And even though his uh religion demanded it of him, his morality if you will demanded it of of him, his military job demanded it of him, his

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cultural conditioning and and uh way of life demanded it of him in that if he did not accomplish this bombing, he for sure would be instantly put to death by his peers, by his own people. and that it was illegal to not perform this bombing and so on. And yet, in spite of all of that, um uh when he drove the vehicle to the spot in which the bombing was to take place, he suddenly had feelings of of love. Uh some of which he’s not able to describe. Um he had an overwhelming feel feeling of camaraderie

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among people that he didn’t know that he hadn’t met yet. And to make a very long story short, uh I’m saying that he was loved on by people like you and me. And that there were several of us uh in the priesthood as well as out of the priesthood who were on a conscious level aware of the individual and the and the timing of this event now in the capacity that I am at ease right now and I’m feeling comfortable with Lynn and Carol and friends and even people listening to this tape and so on and it’s because of

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that comar it’s because of our feelings toward each other uh both trials tribulations and all that that that my ability to be at peace with myself is enhanced by um the additional love and recognition of other people who are spiritually oriented and u and could conceivably facilitate what I’m hinting toward. So therefore at the right place in time with a collective effort of many thousands of people uh such as people who don’t understand uh esoteric spiritual matters or don’t know

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quite what the word karma means but say pray the rosary every day or spin a prayer wheel every day or just sit and be one within themsel every day or on a regular basis. And even people who don’t do anything at all but are just more or less that ambiguous phrase within themselves uh collectively enhanced enough of a focal point of energy so that this individual in the Middle East was in effect love bomb and had an attitudal change. Now you might be questioning gee was this manipulation on our part uh to and toward this man

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and was therefore this manipulated? No. uh each of us also has free will and therefore a degree of privacy that can be demanded. Uh it’s very unlikely that if the person not be receptive that they can be moved or made or manipulated to accomplish or to change or to do anything. So therefore with an understanding that this man was to a degree to a a degree of receptivity toward compassion and love uh for the human condition, his attitude toward the demands of his job at hand was superseded by his recognition of

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compassion and love for humanity for humanity. And therefore he parked the truck, walked over to the checkpoint and introduced himself and explained why he was there and what he was about to do and that he uh feels as though he should no longer do that and he’s had an attitude of change. That’s really a very good example as to what can be accomplished. Uh does this mean that we should all sit down and constantly cruise the main as I say or look around for things where we can love on people

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to uh stop a plane crash or or force an attitudinal change on a friend or a relative or an ambiguous person on the other side of the earth? No, not really. But regarding the facilitation of that, what is the minimum requirement to accomplish anything like that that is measurable, newsworthy, and you can say we did this last year? Uh it requires your or any of our uh recognition of our attitudes. are general attitudes and then an attitudinal change at any given time or place to cope with or deal with or be a

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certain kind or type of person. Uh and it’s all based on attitude. You don’t have to know exactly how to participate in u a medicine wheel or a hands-on healing or do you have to know rape? Do you have to? It’s good to know any and all of those things. I recommend the more knowledge you can gain by practice and so on. Fine. Uh but you don’t have to know that. You only have to have a certain degree of compassion for humanity and receptivity. And with that general attitude, you’re

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really pretty well all set. uh some of the things that we have actually accomplished such as I have laid claim to the uh notice with all due respect to that individual who had the attitudal change that we um many thousands of us uh were available to him to facilitate the assistance that he required. Uh I’m saying that if we were not receptive toward his needs and that this opportunity uh and I I don’t know if I said I or not. I want to make sure I said that that we a collective effort were um aware of his existence and that

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we were not available to assist him um that the bombing would have taken place. So if you twist that around, yes, we can brag and say that we prevented the bombing, but rather than to require that ego or that demand of pride and and accomplishment, you know, use that with all humbleness and even a degree of humility so that it not become a problem in itself, but also recognize that things can be changed on a worldwide and I mean a very large word that I’m about to say, even a galactic level with something as simplistic and

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simple as an attitudal change. And why do I always say attitude attitudal change instead of just your attitude? Because in your degree of normaly it’s here you are listening to this tape and thinking about geez babbling a whole bunch of words I’m hardly understanding it or whatever degree of understanding you’re having um you have a general attitude and you can upgrade yourself or degrade yourself with an attitudal change in fact almost everything that you accomplish or do requires a subtle

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degree of change of attitude. In other words, if you’re being spiritually intellectual right now listening to this tape, that’s one thing. Either I’m not going to say good or bad. It’s just whatever it is. But if you’re, for instance, just being a a friend of mine who has been with me for several hours in Sedona or wherever and you’re listening to this tape and just saying, “Well, there’s Tom’s voice again in his blue sweater, and you’re not really listening to what

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I’m saying. you’re just enjoying my company. That can be the equivalent of being highly intellectual, listening to what the words that I’m saying is, agreeing or disagreeing and arguing and mauling over some of the information that I’m trying to share with you. And and that may or may not fit into an attitudal change. Um, for us to become spiritually receptive and say more loving under the general heading of unconditional love, you will probably go through an attitudal change, you will either

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experience or not, but trust me when I say in order to do any of that, to be even receptive to that, your general attitudes will be focused on your subconscious or superconscious or uh hopefully on a conscious level and your specific attitude will be enhanced or again that word change if we collectively sit down and fervently pray. Now I’m using phrases that some people say well I don’t believe in prayer. All right. Whatever you firmly believe in, in other words, under the heading of love, if you’re if

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you’re one within, then that’s a good stepping stone to be uh one with everybody in the universe. And u to reach out and uh know John Denver’s uh quote in the song is uh love is a light that shines from heart to heart. I love that. that’s so symbolic and that if you have the ability to first love yourself and have an overabundance of that then pour outwardly to and toward other people um you can manipulate to a degree and focus that love for the purposes of positive change, positive

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enhancement. Um what’s a what’s an example of maybe one more thing that we have actually accomplished through attitudes. I know I gave the example another time of by lovebombing a pilot aboard a plane off the Miami coast that and funny because we use the word pride sometimes as a a handicap and in this case it was the honest uh accomplishment and therefore a a well a healthy degree of pride of this pilot to say I am a real pilot and I am good and these 250 people behind we are my people. And so he wasn’t being arrogant

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at all and he wasn’t being overly proud. It was just an actual recognition of of who he was at that moment. Yes, they were accomplishments and they were accolades and it was self-proclaimed, which sometimes we have to be careful of, but in this case, it just made him a little more proud and to just sit up a little bit straighter and get in the actual position of flying the plane even though it was on automatic pilot. And by doing that, he was able to see out the window and see the plane which uh

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mistakenly was about to uh pretty much crash head on into each other. And in that capacity along with his skills to immediately just shove the controls forward and dive the plane out of harm’s way. And um and it was curious. There was a news interview of the pilot and his u in fact attitude as to what took place the the moment before the uh near miss or the almost accident. And he says that he doesn’t really understand it, but he was just overwhelmed by a feeling of accomplishment and love, right? I mean,

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that’s, you know, how provable is that? I wouldn’t want to prove it. I would never want to confront this pilot and say uh uh are you aware that u uh 100,000 people who are in love with life and in love with the earth and everybody around it and can love you unconditionally assisted you that day? You know what would that accomplish that would maybe even disturb that pilot? Uh it’s best to leave things like that more subtle. Leave it alone. uh I’m telling you this and you know uh as an example

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and to help you with uh your attitude right now regarding the feasibility of spiritual matters and it’s okay to you know use it for something like that but not for the purpose of say outright bragging going back to the the situation with the bombing in the Middle East I remember that a lot of us got together with you on many occasions before that and you talked about servant prayer and and it was I can’t say it was a new idea for us but you know the old way of thinking was um send in a government

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agent and take the guy out with a gun or something and the the way of approaching a situation like that was actually going right back to what Jesus would have said of love your enemy. You had you had you know asked us all to fervently pray to raise the vibrational attitude of the whole group of men were over there and you know in knowing it so many months beforehand and seeing how it came out that yeah I forgot about that part of it. I didn’t I didn’t realize I’m not remembering that there

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was really that many details. I guess I don’t I guess I don’t try to remember details like that. Um yeah, want to say a few sentences about again in relationship to that. Uh my 15year-old son Tim just within the last 72 hours uh there was a news article or the news was on or something like that which had him walk into the kitchen and then question me very bluntly and very directly like a son would to his father. I mean I I am a dad and therefore without being able to talk to unconditionally. He says you

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know did you have anything to do with the Berlin Wall? And then he asked in other words in other words meaning the same thing as I’m not quoting him but meaning the same thing as um all of these horrendous changes that are happening in the Middle East and Czechoslovakia so on uh is that what you’ve been talking about and of course I was thrilled that he was thinking in those terms let alone asking the question let alone and really it was kind of shocking in a way because I suddenly realized wow

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I actually didn’t have the expectations that this much could happen this soon. Now, to be fair, no, I didn’t have any direct involvement in the Berlin Wall. Thank God for the the opening of the the gates and so on at the Berlin Wall. I mean, that that whole thing was just disgusting and disgraceful. Not just that they built it and they did it. No, it was disgusting and disgraceful for me. I mean, you know, uh when Kennedy said, “I am a Berlin.” If you can translate that u meaning who are you and

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who are you regarding such a thing as a law well then you are part of that part of humanity and if there’s a murder committed that you have a certain degree of responsibility and a certain degree of participation it’s from the society that you are an integral part of that enough said regarding those attitudes but I I said back to Tim, I’m trying to remember exactly what I said. I like to quote myself and I’m not remembering exactly. So, I said things like, “Well, Tim, let me put it this

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way. If you were at the Berlin Wall two years ago, what would you have mustered? What would you have come up with to make a hole in it or to tear it down? I mean, would you typically want to say, “Well, we need about 25 uh of the newest tanks, army tanks, and we should have u an Awax plane over to jam all the all the commun the normal communications.” So that we could bring in some A10s and and shoot and bomb and destroy the wall and so on. And ultimately, what would you accomplish? Well, you may or may not be

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able to destroy the physical a section of the physical wall. and you’d be able to have 20 or 30 or a thousand people rush back and forth or rush through and so on, but politically and militaristically you might win a one-day battle and still not actually accomplish anything at all. So, what would you need? Would you need an actual uh realistic Star Wars laser gun to shoot the wall down? And I was getting to the point, I used a couple of other examples that Tim was very familiar with and uh uh in reference to F-14s and so on that

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he’s familiar with. And I said, “What’s more powerful than all of that?” In other words, what is more powerful than the most powerful army in existence? And I said, “Attitude.” And he kind of hesitated. And I wasn’t I wasn’t really sure if he was hearing me properly or translating that which I really to translate. And I said, “Let me put it this way. Do you think that China taking over with martial law and the dictatorship type uh socialistic uh communist system that they live under

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and that everybody is forced to shut up now and to um in others that they’re actually killing some of the protesters. um a certain uh um not genocide really but uh can’t think of the right phrase youth in Asia but in other words trying to kill off the uh intellectuals in the u the people who are promoting such uh civil unrest and change. I said, “Even if they kill everybody who is ever in Tanun Square,” and I’m one of the few people that pronounced it correctly. Hard to get that NM in Tan.

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Um, in other words, if they literally killed and got rid of everybody who was in that square, that square and that event and that social activity did take place in history and China will never be the same. As a result of that, who won, who lost? Well, many people lost their lives, many people lost uh some of their attitudes, many people lost and were degraded uh compassionately and so on and so on and so on. But history will show that that was a very worthy uh stepping stone toward uh this ambiguous

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phrase of the onset of the new age or or u unconditional love and that we should eventually get this big blue marble working back in order toward coexisting. humanity borrowing and using the big blue marble and the big blue marble wishing for and enhancing and loving the human condition as opposed to might makes right and all that sort of stuff. So then I gave Tim another example saying or or bringing his attention to uh what is more powerful than the most powerful armies and so on. And I said, uh, was it an

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attitude that has changed in the last five years and then in the last two years and then in the last six months? Was it the attitude of just the leaders? or was it a collective attitudinal change toward the people who prior had championed socialism or communism or that form of communism uh in Germany in Czechoslovakia in the Middle East in South America and what is really going on is some of this happening too fast too soon and typical of us we should say whoa be careful because this might be a big setup um

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there’s manipulation going on power in the business world and so on. Yes, that’s still going on. But just take a look around you. Take a look around every one of you. Take a look around us right now. Are things worse off or better off? And say, “Oh, crime is up. Drug abuses is rampant and this and that.” Well, with all due respect to the good old days, even if they be six months ago or or 100 years ago, things are much better off right now. regarding humanity and regarding attitudes,

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general attitudes. In other words, the level of general attitude, the average attitude is much more loving, much more humanistic, much more compassionate than it was 100 years ago. That’s a judgment call on my part, but you check it out for yourself. I mean, honestly, and without prejudice, take a look around. You say, “Well, my personal relationship with my spouse is worse off than it was three years ago.” Yeah. In other words, here we go with attitudinal changes. You know, measure those things, but then

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really look who are you right now compared to who were you? Were you the quiet subordinate of the relationship of three or four or five years ago? And yes, it might very well be more chaotic at the moment for a lane or anybody else or yourself or people that you know, but generally are you better off with more facilities in your brain and in your mind and in your spirituality to start recognizing uh who you can be, who you wish to be, who you need to be in regarding some of these chaotic changes and so on. And

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that’s what’s known as attitude. And even though the immediate result of an attitudinal change might be chaotic or negative or bad or you know the OG situation, uh that is the flowing and often very chaotic uh changes, the earth changes that I’ve been looking forward to that I’ve been actually sometimes secretly preaching about and so on and and we’re part of this right now. Um, we have the ability with love and with attitude to override or and I’ll even use the word annihilate

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uh negative forces uh uh armies uh and I mean should we dare prematurely point the finger at Czechoslovakia and look at what is taking place there. This is not just a a revolt. This is not just civil unrest and demands and therefore one or two public officials are saying, “Whoa, I better get out of here before I get uh hanged or killed or overthrown.” No, these are attitudinal changes on the part of a lot of these officials uh socialism and communism so on even democracy you know there’s

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a in Latin America and South America and so on uh yeah you’re going to have the arrogance of some of the leaders down there who are simply militaristic and power people and say no I will stay in office no matter what because this is mine there’s the attitude And you or I or collectively, we may not be able to reach that person in a loving gesture and they may need to be physically overthrown or thrown out. But take a look at the effect of the last 6 months or the last year regarding the degree of

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change and the permanent type changes that have taken place which you know I mean it’s so much easier, quicker, faster, better with an attitudinal change that is very shocking. I mean you know am I just babbling on? To me, it’s the the events of the last couple of months uh in the very last part of ‘ 89. As a matter of fact, in a similar the subject that we’re on, just this last night, I happened to open the book Heading Toward Omega, which I really should read sometime. Uh and um a friend

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of mine was pointing something out that uh well, Tom, here’s some statements of near-death experiencers uh back in. And then he looked at the date of the book and he says, “Well, the book was published in as late as 84.” And I said, “Well, I think that it was written in 1982.” So he says, “All right. Well, 8284.” He says, “Back a few years.” And he says, and the statements in here, I mean, most of this book is actually outdated because it’s it’s saying things

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like, yeah, I can see a great deal of chaos and attitudinal changes which will take place by the end of 1989. 1989. And I got a little emotional, but then I laughed and I said, uh, oh yeah, I can remember saying that. And um you know uh many of you who listen to this tape, you might have a copy of that book. And and I’m saying that the book is pretty well out of date. Practically everything in that book, especially when it came to the psychic aspect and so on, it talked about u the onset of nuclear

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war. Um there’s many phrases and paragraphs in there that uh for the purposes of confidentiality and uh if you can possibly perceive that 1982 there were attitudes and uh fears subtle fears of myself and many other people who were written about in that book that said you know yes Ken you can use this information but you can’t use my name you can’t identify me with these particular quotes. Uh the Kodak syndrome was talked about and I’m saying this now and you can read in the book

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and you’ll hear where it says I don’t even know if it identifies Rochester but here’s where in a major industry there was a factory where there was some death and destruction going on and how that a near-death experience there was able to accomplish change of positive nature and save people’s lives without getting anyone fired. I Oh yeah, you can say, “Wow, neat. That was clever.” But it was done by changing the attitudes of the people, not by saying, “Hey, you’re

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doing something immoral or illegal or wrong.” It was just approaching these people either directly or indirectly, saying, you know, we’re making a profit and you’re making a good product, but can we improve on the atmosphere around these people in those subtle ways like that? Um, you can read in that book and it’s really kind of a good history because many of those things were were dated and said um, and there was another quote which I can’t say right now. I’ll be too emotional about it. But you’ll be able

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to read that book now and hear me in that book. you pretty much identify with the a majority of those quotations were were from Tom Sawyer’s near-death experience and pre-cognitive stuff, including mention of uh a nuclear detonation in the Middle East. And I didn’t realize uh I last night I read this one little paragraph and I didn’t realize the number of details that spelled out the u the precognitive nuclear detonation entire Lebanon. Uh, I don’t believe I said Lebanon, but I did

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say the Middle East. And of course, I was dealing with when was this and of course that famous statement that Ken Ring tried to give me uh purposely give me the wrong date so that I would say, “Oh, no.” and correct him and give the correct date. And the the way I answered him was uh he said, “Well, in other words, it will be in say uh the summer of 1991.” And my immediate reaction was, “Oh, no, no, it has to be an Olympic year.” And And then over the next several years

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realizing, wait a minute, there are a couple of Olympic years between 1982 and 1988. And then of course it zeroed in on um and by the way just for the record that that what a funny phrase a deadline but the deadline for that particular event was to have been it’s precognitively and it’s almost a contradiction of terms but precognitively there was to have been that nuclear detonation by August 15th of 1988 which was not that long ago a little over a year ago now and um with attitudes and

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so on uh yes we changed that now there is something where the attitudes to and toward and regarding the military were necessary but in fact that was a circumstance where I could not do anything about it like I didn’t go there and disconnect it um that certain special forces of the military were necessary to actually end up facilitating that. But it was brought on by addit attitudinal changes within the Pentagon saying what’s a near-death experience and then eventually having certain individuals become interested in

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it and deriving some direct information be it psychic or precognitive from a near-death experiencer and then many near-death experiencers I don’t by any means want anybody to think that it was a Tom Sawyer situation. that I did this. this was a collective effort and that I might have assisted and participated with say locating the actual warehouse entire Lebanon or sir Lebanon and then somebody else was more accurate in pinpointing the time frame and with assistance of all of us collectively by way of

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conferences and so on and just sharing and you know actually very bluntly loving one another that collectively we were able to enough information to convince the military that this was not only feasible but this was to be and uh it did go to the 11th hour but it was facilitated and it was facilitated not by these these weird or fancy schmancy by title near-death experiencers or people who’ve had a very profound spontaneous spiritual awakening but it was facilitated with the assistance of minimum with the assistance of people

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with more positive attitude. Tom, if the military had gotten involved on some level in a way, I don’t know how much they really did. I mean, they would did in terms of finding and dismantling everything, but if at a certain point they’ve gotten in the way of the prayers or the attitudal change, then that man wouldn’t have had the opportunity to have that spontaneous awaken. I don’t I don’t know if that Yeah, I didn’t quite understand. Were you actually asking the question or

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Yeah, you would said that somehow um having kind of a connection to the Pentagon or whatever. And I thought that it almost didn’t have any connection through any of the military powers on either side other than the power of prayer. I mean, it was like right now specifically are you talking about the nuclear definition, right? All right. Because uh well, you’re talking about the attitudes of people in military power changing. Well, in other words, I was trying to incorporate that uh don’t please get

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unrealistic about what I’m talking about because attitudinal changes are a necessity right now for the survival of mankind. Our general attitudes are not good enough. I mean I’m not pointing the finger at anybody but collectively our general attitudes are that here we are on this earth and it’s ours and we can do whatever we want with it and we waste we are uh you know all that stuff and that that’s no longer acceptable. uh mother earth has put up with us especially for the last 100 to 200 years

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where we have had the potential for destroying or killing or hurting her meaning mother earth and that we have the potential for annihilating that which we need to survive in other words the our house if you will by our house I’m talking about the mother earth the the the little blue marble that we live on and uh we have the potential for annihilating that um and our attitudes are the basic measurement for survival for annihilation and if we lose our general attitudes if we degrade our attitudes

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and so on uh I’m saying that uh within the next couple of generations the human condition is going to be annihilated. I mean let’s stop fooling around. This is a fact. You could look at it uh scientifically, ecologically, uh spirit uh spiritually or and most importantly by my standards is realistically this is not a joke. This is not a new age phenomenon or anything else. This is simple fact and that that uh it’s not just a nice thing and you might feel more pleasant knowing that you’ve helped

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somebody out in the Middle East. I mean, knock it off. This is for ourselves. This is for our survival. And it’s not something that’s nice to do and I wish for everybody to try it. This is beyond that. This is a necessity. And there are going to be those people uh Norga I mean I don’t want to point the finger but an attitudinal personal like Nora might have to be physically picked up and slammed down. I mean this and and if he this one person and this one person’s attitude is in the way of our survival

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he may have to be annihilated. I mean, I’m not by any means advocating a killing or anything else, but by annihilation, right? I mean, uh, nothing should stand in the way of the realistic and compassionate survival of the big blue marble of our lives, of our existence. in in thinking about a person that’s in a power like that. I know even on an everyday basis, bringing it right down into our own life, if we have somebody close to us in our life that every time we look at them, we go, “That’s a bad person.

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That’s a person with a bad attitude. I hate that person.” And they get sort of hate bomb instead of love bombed. Or you just expect whenever you meet this person that they’re going to be or negative or whatever you give power to to the negativity you know so if we’re looking at a nora or kaddafi or whatever and I always remember that quote from I was caddy and horn of expect the most wonderful things to happen to expect that through prayer or through love gestures or through whatever Remember

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that a person’s whole attitude, whether it’s your next door neighbor or your husband or wife or uh somebody in power on the other side of the world can have a real positive loving turnound instead of always expecting the worst of whatever. Right. There’s it. It’s true what you said. Um and Lynn, remind me because uh you know how I get off on tangents. I want to make sure that I say something in just a minute about the disproportionate effect of hate bombing versus love bombing. In other words,

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there is a reality, there is a potentiality to both, but it is disproportionate. Thank God. And but what I want to say is there are many examples of actualities, realities and actualities of our ability to love unconditionally. In other words, regardless of who you are, regardless of the justification and the righteousness of saying, “Well, that’s my husband or that’s my wife and or that’s only my husband or that’s my wife or how can you possibly ever justify uh going to a Catholic church, paying

00:41:31 – 00:42:52
$25, and saying, um, with this $25 you have advertised that I can have three masses said for three people or three mass is said for an individual and and I personally did that and chose a mass be said for Dr. Charles Flynn, for Father Dennis Bonsenor, and for Adolf Hitler. And the priest wrote down on the card for me, filled it out, and he stopped when he started to make the uh a of Adolf Hitler. And he looked at me and of course was realistically saying, you know, are you making a joke? Are you out

00:42:12 – 00:43:30
of your mind? Uh what is the story? And one of the last things that he did think of right away was how absolutely unconditional and lovely and are you being fervently honest? And I really convinced him that no, this is my desire. And I said, I know that most people would immediately cringe and say, you cannot love that which is so sinister as an individual who through free will and manipulation and so on is directly or indirectly responsible for the death and destructions of millions of people and the suffering of many many

00:42:51 – 00:44:04
many millions more. And I said, “But you know, why are we here and what are we doing and what are we trying to overcome?” One of the things that I was trying to overcome was this attitude of, “Well, let me give you the worst example. What about Adolf Hitler?” Well, God bless him, please. In other words, he’s deceased. It was by way of suicide. Is there anybody any deceased entity if you believe in souls departed souls possibly being in a hellish or purgatory scenario? I mean if

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we compassionately can turn that unfortunate horrendous negative bad scenario and situation therefore focus on the individual he the deceased entity Adolf Hitler and can upgrade that. Where are we? Well, among other things, we’ll be a hell of a lot of pray, you know, a lot better off. And and I was being honest and the priest very hesitantly allowed that to be said. In other words, allowed the mass to be said uh for the the spirituality of Adolf Hitler. I mean, that’s like the, you know, was I being

00:44:12 – 00:45:21
cute? Was I being manipulative? Was I just doing something to teach a lesson to that priest and all of his reverence and so on, but his normal realistic attitude that well you say you say masses for your grandmothers and stuff. You don’t say masses for Adolf Hitler. I mean he’s already gone and you know Yeah. But you say Mother Teresa doesn’t mean your prayers Adolf Hitler. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and again now again I didn’t actually mean that literally because see that attitude is wrong but it’s a way of

00:44:47 – 00:45:56
shocking you know what is your attitude and you say well if you had $25 you should give it to uh Mother Teresa or say a prayer for Mother Teresa God bless her isn’t she wonderful nah death and there’s two ways of looking at it yes you should you pray for the enhancement of that which is positive in nature and you want to participate in that. You want to promote and enhance that, but you should not ignore the one in most need and it might very well be yourself. I then talked with that priest for about

00:45:21 – 00:46:29
an hour and I said, “Well, now that you know that I’m being honest in what some of my attitudes are, I said,”I not about to do this because of my cultural conditioning and so on, but can you see that my philosophy tells me that I might very well wish for my prayers to be said for me?” And I said, “Not that uh I’m going to cover my own ass and have a whole stack of prayers, the scorecard, so that when I’m uh deceased and so on, that I’ve got, you know, a couple sergeant stripes

00:45:56 – 00:46:56
on my sleeve already waiting for me.” Um, no. But very realistically, that’s not unrealistic. And it depends on my attitude at the time. In other words, if I’m being arrogant and saying, “Well, I know how to pray better than you.” And therefore, watch this. I’m going to pray for I mean there’s no other explanation necessary. I mean, I might even be harmed by doing that or or in others in some way at least spiritually that I would pay the price for it. That kind of

00:46:26 – 00:47:29
ignorance and arrogance. And you know, you have to look at things. I said earlier this morning that you know jump out of yourself if you can and go to the very highest level you know and look back at yourself and and uh one of the measurements to that you’re high enough actually doing this looking at yourself your situation or your ability to decide or your attitude is that you will laugh and that laughter may actually be sarcastic or it may be that adorable laughter meaning this higher person

00:46:57 – 00:47:56
looking down at this infant or this ignorance that we have a tendency sometimes to laugh at that lovingly. All right? And if and if you accomplish that, you start laughing at yourself, well then that simply tells you that you’ve reached a high enough level. So just use that make the observation of outside yourself looking back at yourself and then go back to whatever normal it is or wherever you are at that moment and then try to go more subtle than that. I don’t like to say lower. In other words, the

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connotation of down or negative, but go lower to yourself. Go to your uh your psychological self, the grassroots level of where is this coming from? Is this a stimulus from my childhood or is this the grassroots the very root of the situation? If it be a problem, then you say the root of the problem. If it be, uh, gee, I’m having trouble feeling almost too good all of the time, then say, well, what is that based on? Is that a wish fulfillment? Other words, am I Tom Sur just still off in some cocky

00:48:00 – 00:49:16
dream world that I I have been to the light and I will be in the light again and this is just a temporary la here I am always smiling. I mean that can be um you can actually have a incorrect attitude regarding that. I can have an incorrect uh that’s a judgmental statement. How do you say it without being judgmental? um that that uh I can have a distorted attitude regarding myself. Nice stuff. Um oh, by the way, just to uh round it off, that conversation that I had with Tim and telling him that attitudes

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uh is more powerful than guns. And in other words, he understood it and he just kind of like, you know, kind of like looked at shook his head. Yes. He was perceiving that which I was trying to tell him and show him and that he got enough measurements to answer his question. And I was very realistic saying uh no Tim uh the Melzdc priesthood did not take the hammer and chisel and take the first chunk out of the wall. And I was no we didn’t do that. How many people were even aware that something like that was available

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or going on? It see it doesn’t work that it doesn’t have to work that way. can very well be and you may be moved to do something or travel somewhere or go somewhere. I mean, if I had plane tickets in my pocket and not use them knowing that I’m in a dilemma, I’m not sure if I really should go travel this distance and pay for this ticket and spend this time and money for the purposes of assisting, possibly assisting one person. And in the one circumstance that I’m remembering right now where I had

00:49:46 – 00:50:49
the plane ticket in my pocket for three weeks in time, they’re actually three different tickets to the same location and I did not use those tickets and I have been very sorry ever since that I did not. In other words, I made a mistake. I in hindsight of what took place, I wish that I had. I made a mistake. I didn’t I didn’t give in enough to my intuitive knowledge that I should do this and I was a little too realistic uh with Elaine’s uh suggestion that you know this is a lot of money and

00:50:18 – 00:51:26
are you going to be able to do ever do this again? We don’t have enough money to have you jump in the plane and go and hug somebody in another part of the United States and and how much value is that? Now this is a rationalization. the rationalization. I don’t want to misconrue that as an irrationalization and um and I made that mistake and and that’s history. uh on the other hand was that in effect a learning experience to balancing carefully that I was being very realistic and methodical and so on and

00:50:51 – 00:52:07
compassionate toward do I have a greater obligation for my wife Elaine and the well-being of my family my two sons compared to a single individual somewhere else in the United States and we have to make those tradeoffs now I know that I could have we could have survived as a family and been just as well off having spent that um several hundred dollars and gone and hugged that person. So I can be judgmental in hindsight saying I wish that I had but I made a decision that no the uh the normal security and realistic finances

00:51:29 – 00:52:43
all the things that are a trade-off and uh and I had the right and the and and a a correct attitude for making that decision. I say I can’t blame myself for my attitude at the time and the decision that I made. I can be judgmental in hindsight of that saying that uh in hindsight of everything was that which I’ve learned um I wish that I’d used a little more of my intuition again that attitude that is intuition and and again the caution that we have to be careful of balancing between you know some people

00:52:07 – 00:53:10
you know the different phrases that we use is like like reality so this is the reality you know it’s yeah you you are moved to move to Sedona, Arizona permanently. But do you have the finances? Cuz what are you going to do? Go and sit on Oh, I didn’t say that. Goodbye. If you need me, my new address is Bell Rock. In fact, you even know the spot from from where we met each day. Just up a little higher, a little bit to the right. Um, and uh, few people know that there’s a little tree up there. You know where

00:52:38 – 00:53:44
the little tree is? All right. It’s on one of those ledges and it’s up almost to the top and um Mike McGinness knows where it is and I know he has a photograph of it. Mike, if you’re listening, I want a copy of the photograph of a little tree that I want to claim as my spot. Um yeah, again, you know, where do you draw the line? Yes, a vacation. I’m searching now to see if I can get my son Tim or and or Todd with me there next year or another year back there. But is it unrealistic for me to

00:53:11 – 00:54:17
be there? Yes, it I already know this. Yes, it is because I’m one of the few lucky people that knows that I am where I’m supposed to be and comfortably so even though it’s snowing out right now and everything else that that my place is currently and for the near future Rochester, New York and um and it’s funny because they have little name cards sort of America but in America for right now as opposed to the Middle East or in Berlin or anywhere else. And um and of course you know I try

00:53:43 – 00:55:00
to have those grassroots that that reality that that this is where I’m supposed to be even though with my attitude and whatever else I can facilitate uh making a videape like this and so I can reach out to anywhere in the world and anywhere in the universe because I’m talking about in the middle of the night when when I’m usually are mostly alone and still um you know people are sometimes surprised is to where you can go, what you can do in getting the Sedona trip. You know, a couple weeks ago, about a hundred of us

00:54:23 – 00:55:39
went out there and I think we all had different expectations as to what we were going to receive, what our attitude would be when we got out there, what we were receiving from ourselves or what we were thinking that we were going to get from somebody else or whatever. And I think a lot of us came back um going into a real evaluation of our lives and our attitudes. And I know a lot of us have had a pretty rough time of it. But I think we’re coming out of it with a a real sense of uh what this

00:55:01 – 00:56:14
is all about, how we’ve been to the world. Yeah. Um because I want to use the word chaos because an awful lot of people have derived or realized a great deal of chaos either individualistically or in personal relationships or at the job site or regarding their attitudes and say, “Oh, I’m I feel a little more chaotic than before I went there.” Yeah. Um, first of all, for anybody who isn’t familiar with the Sedona trip, it was uh, of course, the opportunity to be there and do that and so on, but that

00:55:38 – 00:56:46
was up. In fact, I don’t even know, Carol, was that designed because of the time frame. Oh, yes. It was chosen that we All right. I mean, I don’t even know that. It was more synchronistic to me. Yeah. The guidance Dan got was that we were to be there on the full moon of November. Yeah, perfect. And it did fall in line with the the uh right because see again uh in fact I can’t even recall now like with you specifically as to if you ask me the question is this time frame significant to you at all was do

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you have any inclination did well because prior to the trip I had already talked about from my point of view in other words I don’t read the bulletins or the books or or like uh I know I’m very ignorant regarding astrology or numerology and things of that nature that can either predict or or have an indication that this is a priority time as opposed to uh any other time and that if uh there’s going to be oh a great influx of spiritual energy, what would be the best scenario for me? Should I go

00:56:47 – 00:58:02
to work that day? Should I be on Bell Rock? Should I be in Cathedral Rock? Or should I be at Airport Mesa? Wow. Fantastic. Um, so I had very little expectations, me personally. In fact, I was probably the most ignorant person regarding uh the location, meaning Sedona, Arizona. Uh, why are we going there? Who is going? I was almost caught off guard. My attitude at the time was when you first hinted that would you like to go, Tom? Was uh, oh, of course I want to go anywhere all the time with everybody.

00:57:25 – 00:58:25
But but no, that doesn’t make much sense. In other words, does Tom Sur wish tour really need to go to a place like California or Sedona, Arizona? And it was no, that’s not justifiable. First of all, there would be money involved. It wouldn’t be worth the money just for me to have another vacation or go and chat with another group of people um either at my expense or anybody’s expense. And then it was also no, I don’t feel as though I will get anything additionally out of being somewhere else

00:57:54 – 00:58:57
than wherever I will be. And I had not actually planned on being anywhere in particular during that time frame that I said was that full 7-day period from weekend to weekend. Uh, and I’m not even recalling the dates, but uh, so that would be November. Yeah, that would have been actually that was the week after we got back. The weekend the 12th through the 17th. Well, all right. No, and as I said that I said that right. Meaning the week that we were there. Okay. as I talked about that weekend to weekend. It

00:58:26 – 00:59:32
was that that 7-day week, the 5th through the 12th, not to be confused with and additionally, I probably said the same sentences regarding led right into the next week, that following weekend, which was by my standards, as I’m recalling, I got such a terrible memory of things like that, but was uh was it a 72-hour period of time? Because it was like three or four days, Friday through Sunday, right? And then again, the exact math involved or the dates on that, some of that was uh was nodes I focused additionally on that

00:58:59 – 01:00:03
following weekend because of information that I got from many sources including you and from Sedona and then from other people around the country. So, uh, again, I’m, you know, I always have a difficult time with time. uh and I can have a reference point of either a date or uh well within the next two weeks I’ll say often or in sometimes I go by the seasons know as I’m often the best I can do is say well in the very warm weather of August and and that means factually that it will be one of the

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warmest days and it will be in August but I can’t make the association to number days and so on maybe that’s why I can’t do astrology and numerology might have a handicap with math or numbers or I might just be a spiritual airhead and know that this is all illusion. There’s no such thing as time. It’s only the isness of the now. Actually, that’s I I do have a a dayby-day problem. It’s one of my uh you know, it hasn’t really hurt me, I don’t think, but at times it’s

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been inconvenient, my inability to uh focus in on calendars or times or uh numbers and dates. But at any rate, yeah, I I had certain expectations of the influx of spiritual energy of that time frame um regarding the the trip itself and then the weekend after. But that was that was okay for me and I had no over or under expectations at all and I didn’t really have very many preconceived ideas whatsoever. In other words, regarding that, regarding my participation in that time frame as well as the participation of all of you

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people or all of we people, um, I could have been anywhere and still felt fully comfortable that I was an integral part of not only our group or the group but other groups and the biggest group of all, meaning the human condition was everybody. everybody everybody on the big blue marble and um uh in other words it let me put it this way it was not necessary for me to go prior to leaving on the trip now as things developed extremely synchronistically and the fortune that I was able to go and especially I have to

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focus in I can’t help it on Elaine’s ability to go right I mean that was just talk about attitude changes. Um, again, videotape, you know, if we could have on this videotape, I mean, just followed, no dialogue at all, just followed and shown physically visually shown Elaine a week before the Sedona trip. And then this day, no matter what’s happening in her life right now, in other fact that she’s in a chaotic state of losing her job, which should be devastating for most people, especially an Elaine Sawyer

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being, you know, that’s such a priority in her life, and that it represents her self-esteem, her self-worth, where many people are luckier saying, well, this is simply employment for the money to be who I am, uh to enhance the person that I am. With Elaine, it’s more of a representation of that, you know, such her just sense of being at peace and knowing that if one door closes, another will open and she’ll be where she and for the first time in her life. For the first time in her life, did I do

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that? No way. Did you do that? No way. Did the the priesthood do that? No way. Did Sedona do that? No way. You know, it was magical there. All right. But collectively, every single one of those things, persons, places, and and time frame did do that. But does that take away from Elaine’s ability to simply have on her own an attitudinal change? Doesn’t deny it at all. It only enhances it. Yes, it was a result of all of that, but it was equally and at the same time Elaine’s ability to intuitively, magically,

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manipulatively, or just gee, it’s damn time I changed my attitude. I know it all took place in a and it’s a remarkable measurement. I mean, for those of you people who have known Elaine before, especially visually, I mean, I’ve had five neighbors since we’ve gotten back. asked Lane, “Gee, Lane, is something wrong?” You know, it’s funny how you ask somebody, you see a change? I say, “Something wrong?” One person asked and said, “No, why?” Well, I’ve just noticed

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that you haven’t been doing the things that you normally do. And then in a long dialogue, it was, “Well, you normally like scurry around and demand of yourself to get the piece of paper out on the lawn with her fanatical cleaning.” And that she’s walking a little slower nowadays. And of course, we could laugh at that because we know her, but I mean, these are just positive changes. And no, it didn’t require the plane trip, but my god, the plane trip was so perfect. Um, the magic that took place there. I

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mean, I use that word very carefully. I don’t usually use that word, but it was magical. and the many people who were on that trip and so on and have come back to face additional chaos and and judgmental situations and so on. Bear with that for right now. I mean, it’s very it it’s almost impossible to have major positive change without a degree of chaos. because the change itself might be chaotic or in a form of chaos or you may be experiencing chaos inside yourself without understanding

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any of it. Gee, I just feel strange or different or uneasy or insecure or something like this. And it’s that you’re going through a stepping stone or making a major breakthrough. And at the end result will almost for sure be much more positive in nature and much more assuredly or secure or definite. And uh a lot of people know as of this taping a lot of people are in a chaotic state and questioning you know even was it worth it for me to go on this trip and you know trust my judgment that I can’t

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think I I’m zeroing in on 104 people plus a couple people that showed up magically and synchronistically. Uh what was starts with an S. What was the Indian woman’s name? Yeah. Right. I mean she didn’t plan to go on the Sedona trip. Right. Right. And I mean, was she the 105th person? Sure. And uh in other words, I’m focusing on on 105 or more people, a few more that um have been affected by or participated in the trip. And for all of those people, I cannot think of uh gee, it’s

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too bad about, you know, Miss, Mrs. or Mr. anybody. Yeah. In other say it’s a shame about that. I can’t see that it’s a shame regarding anybody even though right now I’m say in fact even viewing this tape that they might be saying yeah but since I’ve got back I Yeah, but what’s interesting is if you can remain centered in chaos then you I mean that’s the major stepping stone. Sure. Yeah. Uh you know it’s easy to stay centered when everything’s going well. several years

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ago without knowing ahead of time. several years ago. And I know I’ve talked about this before, but it’s a perfect example of a manipulative attitudinal change, a demand of myself on Tom Sawyer’s attitudinal change and my general attitude at the time that I am Tom Sawyer in this way. And then knowing and spiritually knowing that my attitude has got to be tried. You know, this this new attitude has got to be tested or tried or proven, if you will. And it was the time where I turned and

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looked into the eyes of that man that was about to rape a little girl. And I was able to love that man. That’s I mean, that’s a perfect example in a way. And and it’s chaotic in my life to this day. Now, there’s the emotions involved are for the compassion for the the spirituality of the whole scenario. my spirituality, my attitudinal changes that were proven that day um is so multiffold that I still get tearyeyed and so on regarding it. But that day, an hour before that time, one hour before I was a Tom Sawyer who

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justifiably would have grabbed a hold of with my hand and possibly killed that man for who he was. And I’m saying justifiably so. morally and even to a degree legally. I could have manipulated that and killed that man in the participation of a rape of a little girl and been vindicated legally, morally and I would have been a hero. And it didn’t turn out that way. It was a it was a very very synchronistic event in my life. And that thank God I mean thank God for me and thank God for God that that I was able

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to uh take the little girl’s hand and just turn and look into that man’s eyes. Now I don’t want to and I don’t think I will ever give too many more details about afterwards regarding other individuals meaning that man and that little girl. But I just want to kind of throw out the effect of my attitude at that my newly forced attitude at that moment. And what did my new attitude at that instant have to do with and within that man? Because that man was just a short distance away and he was also looking

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straight into my eyes. And what did he experience? Did he know that I knew who he was? Probably not. But what effect, if any, did my eyesight and my being and my attitude have on that man? And it’s not up to me to ever give either my opinion or something um that I might know spiritually or intuitively or psychically. Um I don’t think that that would be justifiable at least at this point in time. But think about it. I mean just think about it. In other words, if that man would have met me a year before with my

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general attitude, would he be scared? Would he be changed? Would he be threatened? Would he be able to function normally within his being? And I can promise you that with the knowledge that he was in fact a person with the potential to rape. Uh I promise you that he would have been adversely affected. He would have been harmed. He would have been attitudinally I’m saying he would have been harmed. He would have been defensive. He would have been chaotic. He would have been upset. He would have been scared. I promise you

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that. Now, did he not experience any of those things with the meeting of me that day and um and of course I can state that at least many of those things did not take place. And thank God for that. I mean, just because he felt love rather than hatred. on some level, right? On some level, yes. But even if you hesitate saying, “Did he really experience love?” Because you’d have to get his interpretation of that. He experiences love. But what I can promise you is he did not experience

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righteousness, macho oneupsmanship. I’m better than you. Don’t push me. or I have the right or ability to kill you and be a hero or be righteous or justifiable. I mean, he did not experience hatred and negative. Again, you don’t have to know the exact answer, but what’s the difference? And and can can our attitude or your attitude make that much difference? And it can never be overemphasized. I wish that I could give the perfect analogy, so to speak, because sometimes that works best

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regarding proving or showing uh something as ambiguous as an attitude. I remember one I worked for Xerox. I used to go to this little uh drugstore for lunch and there was this long lunch counter and there were these two waitresses that would just throw everything in front of you and say, “What do you want?” You know, and growl at you. And there was this one woman who would lay down the napkins and the silver as if she were in the wall of Doria or something. I mean, all her teeth were so bad that you just thought

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the pain she must be in. And yet every person who sat in like her six seat area was treated so specially. And people would line up with just a lunch hour with seats available everywhere else waiting to just be in her prison, you know. And here, you know, waitressing can be a a really rough situation. And she was just taking it was like bloom where you’re planting, you know. She was taking the situation she was given and just being as loving and as kind as she could possibly be. And she probably more

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people over the years that she worked there and often without saying a word. Yeah. Right. Just that sense of respect and love. I uh told my son Tim that uh Tim, can you imagine the virus of attitude that would be so contagious that everybody would get it? I mean, you know, trust me that he heard the words, you know, heard the words, but he heard what I was saying. because he was listening to what I was saying from my heart in my mind and that the few words that I said were you knew they were still here every

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15 minutes they hear a eagle sleep down and be like oh they must have left There are things in nature and spirituality that are so serious that all you can do is laugh. Are we going? Um, we’re going to bring you back to love bombing versus K-pop. Yeah. The what was that other word I used? The dis something. The disportionate. Yeah. Thank you. Disproportionate uh love bombing versus hate bombing. Well, first of all, it’s kind of a ridiculous phrase, hate bombing, but let’s be honest that we have in our

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lifetime um disliked andor disliked immensely. Therefore, that word hated individuals, situations, intolerable situations and so on. And therefore wished evil or wish dread or wish something other than love to and toward individuals, people, places or things. And um you know there’s a scenario of can you constantly barrage somebody with negativity. Again this is a watered down version of say a hate bombing situation. Um the disproportionate situation that I want to bring to mind is that uh something that you cannot do that cannot

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be done is you cannot divide conquer or annihilate love. disproportionately we can divide, conquer and annihilate hate. So in other words, even though they are considered uh antonyms or opposites, they are not equal opposites. In other words, you can divide and conquer and upgrade love. Um you can possibly or or I meant to say hate. Um you can possibly upgrade forms of love but capital letter L is love unconditional love you can no more improve on uh and you cannot uh kill it you cannot divide it you cannot conquer

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it. Um yeah Tim Sawyer would you like to come in and listen? No. Okay. Thank you. I love you. Yeah, we we talked about our conversation last night when I was talking about attitudes in regards to Czechoslovakia and so on. Okay. So, we’re just finishing that tape up. So, does this mean that I can still Yeah. No, we don’t need the interruption, right? But I love you anyway. Yes, but I love you anyway. We should go right into loving relationships between parents and teenagers. Oh yeah. In fact, just let me summarize

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the the disproportionate situation. Um attitudinal changes. How much and rather than really dwell on how much harm or disease are you creating in your spouse’s life or your friend’s life or people around you by having negative attitudes? Well, it’s aggravating. It has a negative effect. It is sometimes contagious. You can sometimes promugate disease or a disease or hatred and things of that nature by walking around with a negative attitude or shall we dare say the worst scenario of walking

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around with any kind of hatred in your heart or in your mind. And that’s sad. And of course, you don’t need much of a measurement to know that. That’s not the best scenario. And in the best of times, that certainly is not what you say. Uh let’s see. Next week, I think I’ll be real nasty and negative and hate everybody because you don’t usually plan something like that. You’re usually often considered a victim of circumstances or self-proclaimed righteousness or victim and say, “Well,

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I know that I’m in a bad mood, but it’s not my fault.” open those right away rather than to deal with yourself and the fact that you are promulgating this negative attitude that you are justified or it’s not your fault or you’re being manipulated by outside sources and forces and of course intellectually we know that that is foolishness. Okay, that’s summarize of negative aspects. And how much power does it have? Well, it has the power to um affect other people negatively. uh they have free

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will and they can accept or reject it. And the sad part is in our competition of the human condition and our righteousness and our familiarity with especially spouses uh where the degree of familiarity is at its utmost. Uh we have a tendency to sword fight or to fight or to compete and to do oneupsmanships and well if I’m a jerk you’re a bigger jerk. when if thought about ahead of time, which often can’t be done because if for instance you know that next Tuesday your spouse is going

01:19:22 – 01:20:29
to have a real serious problem and you’re going to have to still spend time with in the company of a serious problemmed person. If you could think about it that ahead of time, often you would say, “Well, I think that I’ll try to love bomb that person or stay out of that person’s space or or way and allow them, if they need to deal with their own personal negativity, lovingly and politely, just say, “Well, I can appreciate your right to be in a negative fashion, but I don’t

01:19:56 – 01:21:03
think this is going to enhance my life, and I would prefer to just allow you this time or and get the hell out. Fight or flight. And we often have a tendency to wish to fight rather than to flight. And I’m not talking about literally or physically running away. I mean, somebody argues with you and if you just smile and say like your daughter said the other day, Carol, um, you know, I love you big sister. You know, um, and also, you know, and again, now attitude. Now, you know as well as I do, she was thinking

01:20:29 – 01:21:34
both that this is a n unconfrontational way, but it’s also she was thinking simultaneously, I’m as sure as I can be, that that this was the worst name calling that she could do because she’s plowing right back into the negative that was forced onto her, so to speak, and she’s just doing the mirrored image. And sometimes that’s more devastating because we humans have a tendency not to want to admit to our own inadequacies and that it’s not my fault I’m in a bad mood. she, he or it, you know, outside

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sources and forces. So, with free will and so on, we have the right to accept or reject all of that. And somebody says, “Yeah, well, when somebody’s pounding the hell out of you physically, you’re going to reject that.” Well, that’s too late to think in terms of acceptance or rejection. The time was maybe way back 25 years ago in Tom Sawyer’s life. And the very very first time that I nudged, pushed, shoved, or raised my voice to an Elaine Powers who became Ela Sawyer. In spite of all that

01:21:36 – 01:22:47
and the very first time that I did that voluntarily, if instead of cowing down and saying nothing and and having the argument stop and having it mechanically work for me because I’m the victor because I made you shut up and uh made you stop saying or doing this thing or I nudged you and that scared you enough to put you in your place. I mean, I’m purposely saying this arrogantly. Um, if that very first time something like that happened, instead of accepting my superiority, my dominance, and these are

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quotes. I don’t mean these literally. Uh, cuz somebody’s sitting there thinking, “Oh my god, did he really think he was superior?” Well, in fact, I did. And at that time, I did. So, yes to that. In other words, the superiority, the dominance, that’s maybe even a better phrase because did in fact Elaine the very first time that happened accept her responsibility for being a subordinate, the dictionary definition of subordinate and that I was the dominant person and that she said yes, if you raise your

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voice, I will stop and it will work temporarily as it may be. But in other words, this is fight or flight. And I raise my voice or nudge her and she cows down and stops and and I’m the victor at least mentally, at least psychologically. So that progressed over 20ome years of marriage into a pattern and so on. Now is this my fault for being stupid enough to not see that this is the person that I love? And if I planned a day ahead, I know I really love Elaine. I mean, in fact, I’m thinking of marrying this girl. I think

01:23:17 – 01:24:19
I’ll nudge her or I think I’ll raise my voice and scare her. You see, it doesn’t happen that way. It happens much more subtly than that. And where does the original acceptance or rejection come into what turned out to be a degree of physical abuse in our marriage from me toward Elaine? Mostly in others of physical, I’m bigger, stronger than she is. And have I ever slapped Elaine? I’m sorry to say yes that I have. And another by no means am I going to say, “Well, it’s not my fault because she

01:23:48 – 01:24:57
accepted it.” See, that’s not the time to consider fight or flight or acceptance or rejection. But regarding anything, even as intensive as that, what if the second time I did that, not necessarily the first time because a gentle little nudge or the the pushing for power, it’s uh who’s going to be the boss in this house? You or me? And it doesn’t much matter because again acceptance or rejection it can be either the male or the female or whomever other living partners. It can be anybody uh

01:24:23 – 01:25:27
either one or the other. It’s rarely both equally. It’s very often regarding aspects and so on that there is a dominant person with finances a dominant person with decisions in emergency situations. One serves the other lead so to speak. And um so rather than to figure things like that that out it’s usually testing. It’s usually uh uh you know there are people who demand to be leaders there you have confrontations but then the first time that that’s confronted with do we or do you or does

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anybody accept it or reject it? That’s when you have the ability. Now the second or third time that say for instance I uh uh raise my voice with the nudge in other words the first physical confrontation of uh well I told you to shut up and you’re not shutting up now damn it shut up and a nudge say with an elbow or something like that or eventually a slap if she Elaine or somebody else would have interfered with love in their heart and said you know I don’t mean to interfere or you know

01:25:25 – 01:26:39
however you start out kind of break the ice and just But does it do did it occur to you or does it occur to you that you are actually maliciously nudging or hitting Elaine? And is this what you Tom really want to do? Or is this what you Elaine want to expect the next time? And if you don’t expect it, even if you say uh the third or fourth or fifth time, don’t ever do that again, it may be too late to simply declare in your I I hate to say this word, but in this inferiority way as in it already having

01:26:02 – 01:27:10
taken the position and the role playinging of a subordinate yelling out, I’m declaring that you can never do that to me again. It may be too late. it may have to have intervention of counseling or whatever. I know this 25 years later, it’s I promise you a lot more difficult for a tom sorter to even realize that never mind the immediate justification of there was nothing else I could do. She was going crazy smashing things. I had to hit her or I had to grab a hold of her to stop her from hurting somebody

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else or you know there’s a scenario that I’m making up in those um I don’t want to give you the idea that it’s ever come to that bad regarding anybody but it does I mean it does for ordinary people and at that point it’s uh almost ridiculous to stop and try to consider uh preventing that. Uh so when it comes to that acceptance or rejection and again almost a good versus evil meaning uh negative attitudes and their effect on people and the effect on yourself the people around you and how is that

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promulgated how is that built on? How is that uh continued compared to our ability at any time at all? I mean, even in intolerable situations, emergency situations. Now, for instance, if I were to fracture a lane skull or something like that, that would be an emergency situation that possibly could have been a catalyst for me to say, “Oh my god, what have I done?” Or, “What am I doing is even a better way of realizing it. What am I doing? This isn’t this was never my intentions. This is not who I

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want to be.” And that sometimes rarely but sometimes works but more properly an attitudinal change toward and which is available to everybody all the time. Um in other words inside your mind or any one of our minds say well this to me is some kind of a game. Never mind the the the sarcastic attitude that this isn’t real that it’s a game. No I mean it’s very real. It’s a real game and that the rules for this game are that uh you escalate in an argument, I yell and you shut up and and that can be construed as

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because it’s repeated over and over again over a period of years and developed and promulgated that well guess what this is ridiculous. Why am I yelling at somebody I love or why am I yelling in front of myself? I don’t want people around me yelling so why am I doing it? I’m not doing myself what what I want to be like and then just saying in your mind what can I do about this? Well, one of the easiest things to do is change the rules of the game. This is right in like self-help books. You can I

01:28:56 – 01:29:58
even think there’s a book called the games people play. Not sure the author or whatever, but and you know there’s a lot of those books. You can almost pick up any one of them and here’s some of this general philosophy as to what to do about it. But what people usually don’t do is apply it to the most simplistic parts of their life. In other words, attitude. Right? Dan often uses that u example of having two dogs pulling on a rope and if one of them doesn’t pick up the other end of the rope, there’s no

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struggle. Even in human relationships, if somebody just keeps throwing that rope out to you, you know, just tempting you, it becomes an obligation to pick that rope up. In other words, it’s expected to continue the game, which you know, if you have the ability to suddenly look at it as an outsider from outside yourself, you see, you know, what is this game that I’m playing and why? Yeah. What would happen with a couple if they were really, you know, going at a real good fight and instead

01:29:57 – 01:30:52
of walking over and slapping somebody, you walked over, put your arms around. Okay, that’s a change of attitude, right? It’s a change of attitude. But now, here’s what’s important because this is like, okay, I hear you, Tom, philosophizing, and so on, but but but damn it all, I’m pissed at my husband today and I can’t do this right now. And as it develops and it gets the game is really well established, uh, the degree of familiarity, I mean, come on, this is just Elaine. I can talk to her any way I

01:30:25 – 01:31:33
want. She knows what I mean, right? Boy, I’ve learned a lot the last couple years. Um, right. Disregarding that and the degree of familiarity, uh, be careful of expecting, having over expectations, something that has taken you months, weeks, years. In my case, I’m talking about something that took 25 years or more to develop. You’re not going to suddenly uh be in there. Yeah. Well, I don’t like your attitude either. What did you say? You don’t dare miss a word of it. What did you say? And then I

01:30:59 – 01:32:07
suddenly go, oh, I go, I know it. I’m going to go over and hug her. And you know, you know, the the attitude involved is correct, but then the the grassroots realistic facilitation. You go over try to hug, you’re probably going to get a sore jaw. In other words, or something, you know, in other words, the initial reaction, don’t try to hug me. I know what you’re doing. And and again, she can’t recognize that they can’t recognize you can’t recognize an attitudinal change. Most often you’ve

01:31:33 – 01:32:38
got to develop that. You’ve got to show it in a subtle enough way at first and then you know look here’s a little seed. This is attitudinal change is a seed. Don’t say there’s the seed. Look at all the flowers. I mean don’t expect rainbows and butterflies and flowers. That’s got to be nurtured. It’s got to be developed and then in a period of time and and sure shown tested. Um, in other words, just to say something, try something like another more subtle degree, um, you know, Bill, Pete, Jim,

01:32:05 – 01:33:22
or Ann, Sally, or whomever or Darling or Sweetheart or Snowflake. um uh we argue as often as we argue or I understand that you have a point of view but uh I don’t want to just continue this negativity or this argument or um if you wish to write down your most important point of view and I’ll write down mine and then we’ll talk about it tomorrow or next week. I mean, as silly as that sounds, like little child, write it down. I mean, but seriously, I mean, how many how many one of us right now, there’s

01:32:44 – 01:33:44
anybody watching this film has taken the pad and your worst complaint or your worst situation or intolerable, write it in sentence form. And you can even write damn it and stuff, but you know, I mean, the the the four-letter words, write it out however you want. Set it off to the side. Don’t let anybody see it, but then you yourself only reread it the next day. because you’re going to be in a different attitude, a different frame of mind, and it can either totally lose its significance, meaning this is just a

01:33:14 – 01:34:16
builtup deal of stress and I have to ventilate, so I called you a jerk because you stubbed your toe or something normal or you dropped a dish and I just say, “Damn it, I can’t stand, you know, all the sentences that follow that.” It’s a It really had nothing to do with the immediate incident. Um, yeah. Gee, attitudes. I didn’t I’m listening to myself and it’s becoming more and more important, more more involved. Um, what was the thing you just mentioned that we should talk about

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now? I was more into the reality of the relationships. They even give examples of like some of the people in the audience here and us right here. um you know without giving intimate or private details but scenarios that people associate with already said regarding like escalative type arguments. Well, I was earlier I was talking about being in a job situation where whenever somebody comes up to you, you mirror their attitude instead of keeping centered in your own so that if somebody comes up that’s angry or sad or whatever, you

01:34:20 – 01:35:52
keep taking on their emotions rather than, you know, being a central point that can um turn a whole work situation around just by staying positive. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of examples like that. But yeah, I think that most everybody can understand what you’re saying. Um what about if if you’re having discussion and the one person has an opinion and another person has a different opinion. It’s not opposite or bad or anything. It’s just different. And yet the first person won’t accept it because they think that

01:35:06 – 01:36:11
if you’re not with me, you’re against me. Mhm. That’s really a tough situation. Well, it’s tough. And generally, I mean, without zeroing in on specific details, generally because I’ve certainly been in that circumstance with Elaine, I mean, she’s this very lovely uh third generation Italian American, and I never stereotype, but um and so I’m off in my own little world and so on. And she has bit as much right to an opinion that well gee that’s abnormal and I’m looking at her thinking you are

01:35:38 – 01:37:12
abnormal in this the word we throw out so often normal and abnormal um uh honesty is one of the things that works at all but to give that person some degree of satisfaction the quick little statement say well I appreciate your opinion and I I appreciate your right to have a different opinion than mine, but again, say another sentence or two. Say, um, I’m trying to think of an example. Say, uh, well, I don’t feel as though your opinion is mine, and we are not going to be able to convince each other as to its reality.

01:36:25 – 01:37:24
and it’s something that I don’t feel as though I can compromise. And then even put in a question form, do you think it’s possible at all that you might compromise? I mean, did you ever stop to think of asking your partner, your friend that you’re disagreeing with, uh, I don’t feel as though I can compromise regarding this information or this situation or something. Do you think you could? So, you’re not telling them to compromise with you. You’re asking them very bluntly.

01:36:55 – 01:38:08
Yeah, that’s you know what I get and you know what you get back? and then then of course you drop it because it’s going to escalate something right and then at that moment you really should drop it. Yeah. Like at that moment and then again now here I’ll bring up uh one example. Drop it and go away privately and even secretly and write it down. is in the simplest form in the simplest sentence and it’s not to like the next day wave it in front of the person but um possibly well one of the things that I

01:37:32 – 01:38:55
used once regarding something similar to that was I went to a restaurant and in the restaurant I said uh we had a disagreement a couple of weeks ago and uh it was something that we have a difference of opinion and you’re trying to convince me your way and I’m trying to say that your way is unacceptable and my way is the only acceptable way and uh what should we do about that and you know in other can we peacefully coexist not ever solving this know the things that are unsolvable yeah agree that’s good agree to disagree

01:38:13 – 01:39:23
is can we peacefully coexist and then there are situations in people’s lives where two individuals will not be able to feel comfortable with their disagreement. And that’s when you seriously have to consider yourself in your relationship. I mean, you know, don’t always say, “Well, I’m not sure about my relationship cuz he or she.” I mean, no, that’s when you have to really deal as best you can with your participation in your relationship. In other words, really investigate

01:38:48 – 01:39:59
thoroughly what is it in you that makes this a priority? What is it in you that makes you that you cannot give in? Is it just absolutely against your cultural conditioning? Because attitude can change that. Is it against your morality? Well, attitude can change some of those things. But there is an example where your morality was that line that specific line uh in fact morality regarding sexuality. In other words, if a person never mind uh if it’s based on a psychological inadequ inadequacy or

01:39:23 – 01:40:37
not, but if in their mind they say that I will not do this type of sexual activity and whether you like it or not, you have to give in to that person. I mean any other compromise is a form of rape. I’m not just talking about sexual compilation. I’m talking about um a certain way of kissing or or anything any kind of physical contact and things of that nature, right? And if it’s that’s one of I had a difficult time with things like that because I mean just get into this little aspect of it because I was always

01:40:00 – 01:41:13
able to manipulate or convince Elaine that it’s either okay or this is something that I want and are you willing to please me? But manipulatively so. In other words, it was one-sided. It was Elaine giving in to know she loved me enough to give into me and then I experienced the desire and the in other words the the treat if you will of having her do that never experiencing that she’s doing something that she didn’t want to do and that that’s not love. It may possibly be a distorted form of lust or something of

01:40:37 – 01:41:41
that nature. And did it devastate us? it might not have devastated Elaine and then I was so off in my own cloud or whatever that I had no measurements toward that. I mean after all I won or or I was successful if you will but on an ongoing basis what was that doing to Elaine or what did that do for Elaine and it can range anywhere from well know I really do love him and and if he needs this or wishes this then this will make me happy doing it. So so subtle that it’s not that important and then that’s

01:41:08 – 01:42:19
okay. But it can range the other extreme that this is really uh uh going against her general morality. That’s a good example of way and yeah again the word compromise always comes up but uh something that is you know where you can draw a specific line and so on where there might not be able to be a um a compromise made or even a okay I’ll give to you this way if regarding the car you’ll let me those bargains can be worked out and that might work that day or for the the tradeoff okay I’ll do

01:41:44 – 01:43:01
this if you’ll do this because sometimes we have to pay for some of the things we want either um you know intellectually or money or and uh a deal of that works initially but then don’t count on that every time because again what are you doing you’re setting up a pattern an inadequate unequal pattern and there is usually selfishness in there now again I can use so many examples of myself that I can see it now as a selfish part of me the dictionary definition me for myself and well you know will you will you do this

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this time or or can I have that much money I mean after all you know I mean I don’t spend that much or never mind the justification of it but will you give to me this time and then set up a pattern that is really selfish and uh know it’s harmfully selfish so simplistically it all comes back down sort of to the golden rule in way of treating people the way you want to be treated. Another thing that and I I mean I’m talking to you and me and Lynn and anybody else who’s listening. One of the things that I see that so and

01:42:58 – 01:44:13
I’m talking about myself um that was directly from my own personal experiences regarding me and and then also observation of sometimes personal and intimate details of other people is that uh is that what I’m losing my train of thought is that we don’t test I’m losing my train of thought. I can’t believe this. in terms of treating people the way you want to be treated. Yeah, because it was a spin-off of the golden rule. Oh my goodness. Well, to cover myself to cover myself, I’ll just say

01:43:42 – 01:45:00
that regarding the golden rule. I mean, that’s that’s people say that real quickly. Do unto others, you do unto them. And you know they don’t really like a basic right they don’t really apply that like inside themselves that you know would I wish to meet right now myself and if I said well yeah with a shrug of the shoulder say all right hold it right there now that you’ve like hesitated to say well yeah I’m still okay but you didn’t say oh I would love it. And that’s the key right there to

01:44:21 – 01:45:41
say, “Wait a minute. What is the difference between myself that would be okay and what would be needed for me to say, “Oh, I would just anticipate and love the opportunity to meet a me or somebody identical to me or myself in a a spiritual mirror and say, well, because it’s just me being normal and that’s okay. I mean, I’m okay.” But then who was the person that you met that was just so much more exciting to be with and the way you’re thinking about yourself right now? Say, well, I

01:45:01 – 01:46:06
was with um uh Mike McInness at Sedona and he was just so vivaceious. I mean, I’ve got a sore back and I had to kind of hunch around, but he was like like, well, wait a minute now. Never mind the sore back in Tom Sawyer and the good physical physique of Mike McInness and being so open to so many things. The compliment to himself or you know that I’m giving to him right now and that. But what did you see? What was the first thing you experience? Oh, well his smile. Well, wait a minute. Maybe one of

01:45:34 – 01:46:43
the things about you right now or me right now is that I’m okay. And yeah, I wouldn’t mind meeting myself, but gee, if I really smile genuinely, wouldn’t I rather meet myself much more? I mean, as simple as that sounds, even in the middle of a a escalative type argument and you’re, “Yeah, well, you’re a bigger jerk.” And say, “Wait a minute now. If I was like this frozen, would I want to meet this person?” And if I’m trying to form a love relationship with my spouse,

01:46:08 – 01:47:17
partner, friend, or my work proteges or the guy that you least likely to want to be with, would I want to look this way? Would I want to have this attitude? And right away, so you kind of like sober up as you think about it right now and you say, “Well, actually, no. I would prefer to be a little bit more intellectual or never mind the intellect, a little more spiritual or a little more spontaneous. In other words, never mind always being correct. How about being spontaneously? I mean, how about how

01:46:43 – 01:47:51
about how about screwing up spontaneously and being able to laugh about it and being able to say the next day, boy, did I ever make a mistake. I mean, you realize how how stupid I got or silly I got. Never mind the name so much. But I mean, I find a great deal of joy recently making mistakes in Elaine’s kitchen. Now, the way I said it on purpose, first of all, it’s always been Elaine’s kitchen. Well, Elaine has a full-time job and I’ve been a little handicapped and home, therefore making

01:47:17 – 01:48:23
official meals and doing things in the kitchen. And I mean, the the amount that I’ve changed in just the last couple of months has allowed me to laugh hysterically at the stupid, silly, dumb things that I’ve done in Elaine’s kitchen. And sometimes it’s been really hysterically funny because the macho Tom Sawyer instead of being honest enough to laughingly share with Elaine how quick, oh, I got to get rid of this mess and hide it and everything else and then say, “No, I better have it nice and neat

01:47:50 – 01:48:53
and then just tell her about it rather than to Yeah, it’s one of them tradeoffs where can I ever expect Elaine to be completely spontaneous? Of course not. Never expect her to be always intellectual or very intellectual?” No, I wouldn’t want to. And that isn’t what originally attracted me to Elaine. I mean, granted, some of the original attractions for me and Elaine was that here is this cute, sweet, adorable girl who I can protect and and manipulate, but I mean, in a loving way and take

01:48:22 – 01:49:39
care of and teach and show and I I mean, that was some of the original attraction to her. And wait a minute, is there anything more that I can do toward that original attraction which will enhance her life? And the answer for every one of us is yes. Because in any one of our relationships that we want to say, oh, I want you and Bill or Bob and Pete, Mike or Jean to be just exactly like anybody else, including yourself in your personal relationship. So I guess even when you think of attitude on a global level or a national

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level or right down to your own living. It’s all the same thing. And and sometimes I think when we got out to Sedona and people were saying, well, you know what big wow bam magnificent thing is going to happen to make this be meaningful? And sometimes I think with a lot of us it was something on the most personal level that made the little phrase expect a miracle. I saw that on a postcard. A young girl made this beautiful postcard or a greeting card and it was um actually a picture of a baby buggy, but it was done very

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celestally and it says, “Expect a miracle.” And uh wow, that hit me so I don’t want to say hard meaning bad or negative, but it hit me so many ways like like how wonderful to expect a miracle. But wait a minute, wait a minute. How dare me, Tom Sawyer, ever by God or be a god expect a miracle? I mean, how, you know, how selfish, how actually stupid expect all the different ways that you can interpret that phrase. But then on the other hand, wait a minute, don’t have any less of an expectation

01:50:11 – 01:51:29
for anything that you do or say or an attitudal change without expecting the very best. And I mean everything less than the very best that you compromise on that is your free will bringing on to yourself less than the best limiting and less less than the very best. And again this isn’t for the purposes of laying blame either. It’s for the purpose of realization. You know actions to be made real. Say one more thing. Go ahead. You I asked what you wanted. Perhaps we’re 10 minutes early.

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You have one minute to wrap this up. What do you want to say about it? Tim, save us. What should we tell these people? We’re talking to about 350 people. Oh, no, no, no. Don’t bring subjects like that up right now. Or no. Oh well, I suppose that attitude can certainly set up um you know one thing. Okay, thank you Tim. See and I cultural conditioning I right away said well that’s not the same subject that we were talking on. So my immediate reaction was oh no no no that’s not the subject for

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today and the minute I think about it say wait a minute this is there is a correlation here. I’ve seen I’ve heard from and seen in a lot of people that regarding their first of all belief in I’ll say it that way there’s a belief in any aspect of reincarnation is oh well that’s this time next time I’ll do better or or Elaine said not knowing for sure if there’s a true her true understanding of reincarnation she says she said I couldn’t stand the idea that I am ever going to have to come back or

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relive this or something either better or worse. Meaning like once is enough for what she was dealing with at the moment at least. In other words, she for herself in her life. And she questioned that uh that would be just too intolerable for her to think that this isn’t all that there isn’t just paradise or something like that after this is knowing that she believes in at least an afterlife. Um a prior life or afterlife and know there’s a the an afterlife human condition as opposed to the

01:52:41 – 01:53:54
spirituality paradise or heaven state or conceivably purgatory or hellish situation. Yeah. People sometimes use that as excuses and rationalizations for not being the very best they can be. Like this cost too much. I mean, I’m not going to start giving in to my spouse or it was just too convenient for me to be the leader, the ruler, the, you know, the dominant figure in our marriage and uh none of this feminist stuff is going to, you know, that’s too in it would make me too insecure. Guys usually don’t say that

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out loud. They don’t want to think that, but that’s the basis behind it. Well, no way. I Well, that would be stupid anyway. And it’s based on their inner fear that it questions their own masculinity and everything that they think that they are as a man. Uh I don’t mean just the nacho stuff. In other words, is it queer to have feminine characteristics? Well, I mean, I’m here standing in front of you to say by no means. I mean, what I love very much to be able to show, teach or tell or or or

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do some additional feminine characteristics for my son Todd. I have some apprehensions about uh since his father image was a majority of the old Tom Sawyer, is it okay to slap a girlfriend or a spouse? And I’m sort of hinting that Todd might I’m being honest and and casual or careful saying that he might have a greater tendency than possibly Tim would or that somebody else that does not have those genealogical traits that I know I had from the last five generations of Sawyers where that

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was a a genealogical characteristic of fight or flight. You use your hand and crying or complaining. I’m just saying more like recognition and and fact or history that this was it. Now Tim has me philosophiz and so on. I’m not talking about that as much as if you be given a genealogical trait your attitude even if it be something of reincarnation. People get sometimes hung up into well I have a fear of heights because when I was the Queen of Sheba uh she fell off a horse near the edge of a

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cliff and But seriously now, I mean, people are dealing with this and it’s very serious for them and so on. It may be funny and it may not. Um, how dare we laugh at other people’s scenarios, but and they they carry that with them and they it’s either a hangup or an excuse. And uh the more realistic point of view is you can have direct genealogical traits from another generation, not necessarily reincarnation but another generation and attitude has the ability to change that. But with that, now maybe

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using Todd as an example, is Todd intellectually aware at all of the the possibility or dare I t toward the probability of his being overly pugnacious. Fancy words, but overly pugnacious. And a greater tendency for him to use his hands instead of his heart to win or to progress or to uh again the phrase like point or or win a spouse or win anything. That phrase win. And is it a mentality of sorts, a Rambo type mentality or a militaristic mentality that says that you ever have to win anything? That’s a

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mindset. I want to win Elaine’s love. I want to win. I mean, that’s usual for me. I have to catch myself using that phrase because now it’s taken on a new meaning. In other words, to win is to be at peace. And you can lose the battle and even lose the war and still be at peace. And the victor is all busy with all the crap that he’s bundled on himself and never being at peace, never being you know happy, truly happy because uh you know with with many of these attitude attitudinal changes that

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will be either forced on a lot of you or desired and promagated and developed by any one of us um for ourselves and for the people around us. uh there is a you know a pot of gold at the end of that rainbow. I mean trust me just the numbers of attitudinal changes that I’ve been through has made my life just I mean it’s like a hundfold 100fundfold 100fold a ripple effect. Yeah. And and I’ve gotten unbelievable rewards. It wasn’t even for the purpose that I need a reward if I’ll be a happier person. I

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some of the attitudinal changes that I went through weren’t for that reward. And I was kind of surprised. Whoa. Oh, I didn’t do this for a reward and I’m getting lovebombed or or rewarded tenfold. Um, yeah, it works and it’s something to really concentrate on. You know, a lot of videotapes like this or talks should really stick with the one thing and allow yourself for entertainment and stuff and sensationalism all that and personalized u focused on individuals and so on. go off on different tangents but then come

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back and correlate it with attitudes for example and this might turn out to be one of the better tapes because you know we’ve talked about many things many circumstances global and individual and you know why are you sitting watching this tape right now and what is your attitude now right now what is your attitude I know you’re tired and bored and you’re cramped up want to get out of the room and get a breath mint get a breath mint or something like that. Go to the toilet. Yes. And uh but

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what was your attitude when I think I started this tape by saying you have an attitude about death and it kind of gee what’s he talking about now or that whatever your attitude was then is it different right this instant. I mean, granted, you’re anxious for the various things, but when you walk away from here and drive home or go about your business or go home to the husband that you argue with last night and you’re kind of like, uh, how’s he going to come through the door? you know, seriously, honestly,

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seriously, think about some of the examples that we’ve given, some of the things that we’re talking about and that that my philosophy at least, uh, you know, from experience as well as philosophy as well as the knowledge I got from the light and so on. Um, what about all this and don’t be afraid to test it? uh for you to try an attitudinal change and be overzealous and do too much too soon and be called a jerk by your friend or spouse or somebody around and say, you know, what are you doing now? That’s not you. Say,

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well, no, I was just testing to see if I could be the person that I would really like to be. That says it all. Thank you. Thank you.